Yoma 79a — the Talmud in English

Rav Pappa raised a question: ![](pamud.bmp "

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the date-sized portion that they said

the Sages [is the measure] for measuring the amount of eating on Yom Kippur —

with its pit,

together with the pit,

or without its pit?

And likewise, concerning the measure of a bone of a corpse, which imparts corpse impurity,

Rav Ashi raised

a similar question:

That which we learned, that

a bone

of a corpse imparts impurity when it contains a measure

like a barley-grain —

is the reference to a barley-grain

with its husk, or

a barley-grain

without its husk?

And likewise, it is uncertain whether the reference is

to a

barley-grain

moist or dry?

And the Gemara explains:

Rav Ashi did not raise for himself the question of Rav Pappa

concerning the date-sized portion on Yom Kippur, since “the

large date”

was stated in our Mishna. And it implies

however large it is,

that the larger the date is, that is its measure; therefore, its pit must also be included, since through this it is “larger.”

But

Rav Pappa did not raise for himself the question of Rav Ashi,

who was uncertain concerning the measure of a bone like a barley-grain, since a barley-grain

moist —

is called a “stalk,”

and only a dry one is called a barley-grain.

And likewise, a barley-grain

without its husk —

is called an “ushla,”

and not a barley-grain.

Rabba said in the name of Rav Yehuda: The large date that they said

is

more than an egg-bulk.

And the Sages established that, with this —

his mind is settled,

a person’s mind is settled concerning the affliction, whereas

less

than

this —

his mind is not settled.

Therefore, an ordinary measure of eating, which is an olive-bulk, was not stated here, but rather a measure that prevents affliction.

Meitivi

against Rav Yehuda from the Mishna in tractate Sukkah:

For we learned:

An incident

that occurred during the Festival of Sukkot

and they brought a dish for Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai to taste, and

likewise an incident that occurred during the Festival of Sukkot, when they brought

Rabban Gamliel two dates and a bucket of water.

And

in both cases

they said: Take them up to the sukka!

And it was taught concerning it,

concerning this Mishna in a beraita:

It was not because the halakha was so

that they were obligated to eat them in the sukka that they did so.

Rather,

only because

they wished to be stringent upon themselves

to eat them in the sukka.

And the Mishna continues there:

And when they gave Rabbi Zadok

bread

to eat

that was

less than an egg-bulk,

he practiced three leniencies with it:

a. He did not wash his hands, but rather

he held it in a cloth.

b.

And he ate it outside the sukka.

d.

And he did not recite the blessing after it,

the Grace after Meals, even though it contained an olive-bulk.