Text version of this daf: original and translation
Bava Batra 176b (קעו:) — the Talmud in English
Bava Batra 176b (בבא בתרא קעו:): And it disagrees with Rav Naḥman, for Rav Naḥman said: Specifically a court-appointed guarantor, who became a guarantor before a court, is not required to perform a…
Original text — Bava Batra 176b (קעו:)
ופליגא דרב נחמן, דאמר רב נחמן
: דווקא
ערב דבית דין,
שנעשה ערב בפני בית דין,
הוא דלא בעי קנין,
כיון שבאותה הנאה שהאמינוהו בית דין לסמוך עליו בחוב זה, גמר בליבו לשעבד עצמו בערבות .
הא בעלמא
בשאר הערבויות, שלא נעשות בבית דין, שאין גמירות דעת גדולה כל כך,
בעי קנין
צריך לעשות קנין כדי שישתעבד בערבות.
והלכתא: ערב
אם נתחייב להיות ערב על ההלואה
בשעת מתן מעות
ההלואה ללווה -
לא בעי קנין,
ואפילו אם כתב את ערבותו בתוך השטר אחרי חתימת העדים, הרי זו ערבות גמורה, וגובים מערב זה אפילו מנכסים משועבדים.
אבל אם נתחייב להיות ערב
אחר מתן מעות
ההלואה ללווה -
בעי קנין
להשתעבד בערבות, כיון שמעות ההלוואה ניתנו קודם לכן, משמע שלא על אמונתו של הערב הלווהו, ואינו משתעבד כלל בלא קנין, ואפילו אם היה חתום בתוך השטר. ואם היה חתום אחרי חתימת העדים צריך לעשות קנין על הערבות, ואז גובה מנכסים בני חורין .
ערב דבית דין
שנעשה ערב בפני בית דין
לא בעי קנין,
כיון
דבההיא הנאה דמהימן ליה
בית דין לסמוך עליו בחוב זה,
גמר
בליבו
ומשעבד ליה
ומשעבד עצמו בערבות .
הדרן עלך פרק גט פשוט וסליקא לה מסכת בבא בתרא
Translation
And it disagrees with Rav Naḥman, for Rav Naḥman said:
Specifically
a court-appointed guarantor,
who became a guarantor before a court,
is not required to perform a formal act of acquisition,
since, through the benefit he received from the court’s trusting him to rely upon him for this debt, he resolved in his heart to obligate himself as a guarantor.
In other cases, however,
with regard to other guarantees, which are not made before a court and in which there is not such a strong resolve,
a formal act of acquisition is required—
he must perform a formal act of acquisition in order to obligate himself as a guarantor.
And the halakha is: With regard to a guarantor
who undertook to serve as guarantor for a loan
at the time the money was given
as a loan to the borrower—
a formal act of acquisition is not required,
and even if he wrote his guarantee in the document after the witnesses had signed it, this is a fully valid guarantee, and the debt may be collected from this guarantor even from liened property.
But if he undertook to serve as guarantor
after the money had been given
as a loan to the borrower—
a formal act of acquisition is required
in order for him to obligate himself as a guarantor. Since the loan money was given beforehand, this indicates that the lender did not lend the money on the basis of the guarantor’s trustworthiness, and the guarantor does not become obligated at all without a formal act of acquisition, even if he had signed within the document. And if he signed after the witnesses had signed, he must perform a formal act of acquisition concerning the guarantee, and then the debt can be collected from unencumbered property.
A court-appointed guarantor,
who became a guarantor before a court,
is not required to perform a formal act of acquisition,
since
through the benefit of the court’s trusting him
to rely upon him for this debt,
he resolved
in his heart
and obligated himself to him
obligating himself as a guarantor.
We shall return to you, chapter “The Simple Bill of Divorce,” and the tractate Bava Batra is complete.