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Shevuot 21b — the Talmud in English
And we object: If so, say the latter clause of that same Mishna [below 29a]: What is an oath of vanity? One who swears to alter what is known to people—for example, he said about a stone pillar that…
Original text — Shevuot 21b
ומקשינן: אי הכי,
אימא סיפא
של אותה משנה [לקמן כט א]: איזו היא שבועת שוא? נשבע לשנות את הידוע לאדם, אמר על העמוד של אבן שהוא של זהב...
זו היא שבועת שוא שחייבין על זדונה מכות, ועל שגגתה פטור
מקרבן, שאין חיוב קרבן על שבועת שוא.
ודייקינן: "
זו היא
",
למעוטי מאי?
מאי לאו, למעוטי
נשבע במזיד על העבר "
אכלתי", ו"לא אכלתי
",
דלא לקי
עליה [לפי שכאן אי אפשר לתרץ כדלעיל, שבא למעט מחיוב קרבן, שהרי גם שבועת שוא אין בה קרבן].
וקשיא לרבי אבהו, המחייב מלקות ב"אכלתי ולא אכלתי"?
ומתרץ רבי אבהו:
לא
באה המשנה למעט שבועת שקר לשעבר ממלקות, אלא לרבות אותה לקרבן.
והכי קאמר: שבועת שוא,
זו היא
השבועה
דעל שגגתה פטור מקרבן. אבל
"
אכלתי ולא אכלתי
",
על שגגתה חייב קרבן
.
ורבי עקיבא היא, דמחייב
קרבן על שבועת ביטוי
לשעבר כלהבא!
כי למרות שבפסוק של קרבן שבועה נאמר "להרע או להיטיב", שמשמע להבא, דרשינן מריבוי הכתוב "לכל אשר יבטא האדם בשבועה", שגם על לשעבר חייבים קרבן. [ומכל מקום בשבועת שוא, שהכל יודעים שאין דבריו כלום, מודה רבי עקיבא שאין בה חיוב קרבן, כמבואר לקמן [כו א] שיש מיעוט על נשבע לבטל את המצוה, דהיינו שבועת שוא, שהוא פטור מקרבן].
ותמהינן: כיצד אפשר להעמיד את הסיפא כרבי עקיבא המחייב קרבן אף על שבועה לעבר?
הא אמרת, רישא רבי ישמעאל היא,
שפוטר מקרבן על לשעבר. וכי יתכן לומר:
רישא רבי ישמעאל
היא,
וסיפא רבי עקיבא!?
ומשנינן: אלא, לעולם
כולה רבי עקיבא
היא,
ורישא
של המשנה שנאמר בה "זו היא שבועת ביטוי שחייבין על זדונה מכות ועל שגגתה קרבן עולה ויורד",
לאו למעוטי
"
אכלתי ולא אכלתי
"
מקרבן, אלא למעוטי
את הנשבע ש
אוכל ו
לבסוף
לא אכל
במזיד, שהוא פטור
ממלקות
הואיל ואין בו מעשה, ואינו דומה לשבועה "שלא אוכל" ואכל, שחייב מלקות כיון שיש בה מעשה.
אבל קרבן, מיחייב
בנשבע שאוכל ולא אכל בסוף, כמפורש בכתוב "להרע או להיטיב".
והוינן בה:
ומאי שנא
, מנין לך לחלק ולומר שהרישא של המשנה באה למעט רק "אוכל" ולא אכל ממלקות, דלמא הרישא באה למעט גם "אכלתי ולא אכלתי" ממלקות, כדי שיהא דבר דומה לסיפא, שאמרנו כי היא מדברת ב"אכלתי ולא אכלתי" לרבות לענין קרבן?
ושוב יקשה לרבי אבהו?
ומתרצינן:
מסתברא
שהרישא לא באה למעט אלא "אוכל" ולא אכל, שהרי הרישא
קאי בלהבא,
בשבועה שלא אוכל, ולכן
ממעט להבא,
את השבועה שאוכל ולא אכל. כי יהיה זה תימה לומר, ש
קאי בלהבא
, ו
ממעט לשעבר
"אכלתי ולא אכלתי".
שנינו במשנה:
שבועה שלא אוכל, ואכל כל שהוא, חייב
דברי רבי עקיבא.
איבעיא להו
, מהו הטעם של רבי עקיבא שמחייב בשבועה על כל שהוא?
האם
רבי עקיבא, בכל התורה כולה כרבי שמעון סבירא ליה, דמחייב
מלקות על אכילת כל איסור שבתורה אפילו
במשהו
.
דתניא: רבי שמעון אומר
: שיעור אכילה של כל איסור, הוא
כל שהוא
-
ל
חיוב
מכות
.
ולא אמרו
מהלכה למשה מסיני ששיעור אכילת איסור הוא
כזית אלא לענין
חיוב
קרבן
בלבד כשאכל בשוגג.
וכאן לענין שבועה יסבור רבי עקיבא שגם לענין חיוב קרבן די בכל שהוא. שהרי חיוב הקרבן בשבועה בא על כך שהאדם שינה משבועתו, וכיון שרבי עקיבא סובר כרבי שמעון שאכילת כל שהוא נחשבת "אכילה", הרי כשהאדם נשבע שלא יאכל, דעתו לאסור עצמו אפילו באכילת כל שהוא, נמצא כי כאשר הוא אוכל כל שהוא, שינה משבועתו, וראוי להתחייב בקרבן. [ואינו דומה לשאר אכילות איסור שהקרבן בא על האכילה, ואילו כאן הקרבן בא על חילול שבועתו].
ובדין הוא דבעי איפלוגי
, באמת היה ראוי שרבי עקיבא וחכמים יחלוקו
בעלמא
, בכל איסורי תורה לענין מלקות, אם חייב בכל שהוא, כפי שנחלקו רבי שמעון ורבנן.
והאי דקא מיפלגי הכא
לענין שבועה
להודיעך כוחן דרבנן
, שאפילו בשבועה הם פוטרים, אם אכל רק כל שהוא.
דאף על גב דאיכא למימר: הואיל ו
אילו היה הנשבע
מפרש
דבריו שהוא נשבע על אכילת כל שהוא, היה
חייב
אפילו לדעת רבנן בכל שהוא, [שהרי גם רבנן מודים שחיוב קרבן שבועה אינו משום "אכילת איסור" אלא בגלל שחילל שבועתו, ולכן גם לדבריהם, אם אמר במפורש שהוא נשבע על אכילת כל שהוא, פשיטא שגם לשיטתם הוא חילל שבועתו וחייב קרבן], אם כן, אפילו
סתם
דבריו,
נמי חייב
בכל שהוא, משום שהנשבע מתכוין בלשונו ללשון בני אדם, ובלשון בני אדם גם אכילת כל שהוא נקראת אכילה, ואין כוונתו לשיעור אכילה של תורה שהוא בכזית.
קא משמע לן דפטרי
רבנן, משום שהם סוברים שכל הנשבע על אכילה, דעתו הוא על שיעור אכילה מן התורה, שהוא בכזית.
זהו צד אחד של הספק, ומצד שני:
או דלמא, בעלמא
רבי עקיבא
כרבנן סבירא ליה
, שכל איסורי אכילה לוקים עליהם רק בכזית.
והכא, היינו טעמא
שמחייב בכל שהוא,
הואיל ו
מי
שמפרש
שנשבע על כל שהוא,
חייב.
לכן גם אם
סתם
דבריו,
נמי
חייב.
כי גם בסתם, הרי הוא כמפרש, לפי שאין כוונתו לישבע על שיעור אכילה של תורה שהוא בכזית, אלא כלשון בני אדם, שהוא בכל שהוא. וזהו צידו השני של הספק.
תא שמע: דאמרו לו
חכמים
לרבי עקיבא
במשנתנו:
היכן מצינו באוכל כל שהוא
שהוא
חייב, שזה
הנשבע
חייב
על כל שהוא?
ואם איתא,
אם נאמר שטעמו של רבי עקיבא הוא משום שהוא סובר כרבי שמעון, שבכל איסורי תורה שיעור אכילתם הוא בכל שהוא,
לימא להו,
היה לו להשיב לחכמים:
אנא, בכל התורה כולה כרבי שמעון סבירא לי
ששיעור אכילה בכל שהוא, ולכן גם על שבועה חייבים בכל שהוא. ומדוע הוצרך לומר להם טעם אחר "היכן מצינו במדבר ומביא קרבן, שזה מדבר ומביא קרבן"?
אלא ודאי, שרק לענין שבועה סובר רבי עקיבא שחיובה בכל שהוא.
ודחינן את הראיה: לעולם רבי עקיבא בכל התורה כולה סובר כרבי שמעון, והכא,
לדבריהם דרבנן קאמר להו
את הטעם הזה.
והכי קאמר:
לדידי, בכל התורה כולה כרבי שמעון סבירא לי,
שחייבים על כל שהוא. ולכן גם בשבועה חייבים אפילו קרבן על כל שהוא, לפי שדעתו של הנשבע לאסור על עצמו אכילת כל שהוא, הואיל והיא נחשבת "אכילה" מן התורה.
אלא
לדידכו
, שבכל התורה אתם סוברים שאכילה היא רק בכזית,
אודו לי מיהא
בשבועה, שחייבים על אכילת כל שהוא, כי
הואיל ומפרש חייב
על כל שהוא,
סתם נמי חייב
בכל שהוא.
וזו כוונת רבי עקיבא, שעל כרחך אתם מודים ששבועה שונה מכל האיסורים שבתורה, בכך שמביאים קרבן על הדיבור בלבד, ומאחר שחיוב הקרבן הוא משום על שעבר על דיבורו, אם כן גם באכילת כל שהוא עבר על דיבורו, כי גם אם אמר סתם "לא אוכל", כוונתו היא לכל שהוא, כאילו היה מפרש כך.
ואמרו ליה רבנן: לא!
הנשבע סתם אין כוונתו על כל שהוא אלא על השיעור שקבעה תורה, שהוא בכזית.
תא שמע
: מהא דתנן במסכת נזיר:
רבי עקיבא אומר: נזיר ששרה פתו ביין, ויש בה
בתערובת של הפת והיין
כדי לצרף
ביחד
כזית
, ואכלה,
חייב
מלקות. משום שבאיסורי נזיר יש דין מיוחד שההיתר מצטרף לאיסור כדי להשלים לשיעור כזית.
ואי סלקא דעתך
שרבי עקיבא
בעלמא כרבי שמעון סבירא ליה, למה לי לצרף
את הפת לשיעור כזית? והרי על כל שהוא יין בלבד הוא לוקה כבכל איסורי תורה!?
ועוד
ראיה, מהא ד
תנן
במשנה לקמן [כב ב]: מי שאמר "
שבועה שלא אוכל
",
ואכל נבילות וטריפות, שקצים ורמשים
, הרי הוא
חייב
קרבן שבועה, כי אכל דבר הראוי לאכילה אלא שיש עליו איסור.
ורבי שמעון פוטר
מקרבן, משום שהוא מושבע ועומד מהר סיני שלא לאכול דברים אסורים, ולכן לא חלה שבועתו שלא לאכול, על אותם דברים שהוא מושבע ועומד בלאו הכי שלא לאכלם. שזה כאילו נשבע לקיים את המצוה, שלא חלה השבועה.
והוינן בה: אמאי חייב
אליבא דחכמים? והרי
מושבע מהר סיני הוא
שלא לאכול דברים האסורים, וכיצד חלה שבועה על דבר שהוא מחוייב בו?
רב ושמואל ורבי יוחנן, דאמרי
: מדובר פה
ב
מי ש
כולל
בשבועתו
דברים המותרים עם דברים האסורים
. שלא נשבע שלא לאכול רק נבילות, אלא שלא לאכול סתם, ואפילו לא דברים המותרים. ומיגו שחלה השבועה על הדברים המותרים, חלה גם על הדברים האסורים.
ורבי שמעון סובר שאין אומרים "מיגו", ואין איסור חל על איסור אפילו כשהאיסור השני כולל גם דברים שהיו מותרים עד עתה.
וריש לקיש אמר: אי אתה מוצא
לפי חכמים שיתחייב קרבן שבועה על דברים האסורים,
אלא
אם כן הוא יאסר על ידי שבועתו לאכול אפילו חצי שיעור מהאיסור שאינו מושבע עליו מהר סיני, ורק על ידי השבועה הוא נאסר עליו.
ובשני אופנים יתכן שהאדם יאסר בשבועתו גם על חצי שיעור:
א.
אי
[או]
במפרש
בשבועתו שהוא נשבע שלא לאכול אפילו
חצי שיעור
מהאיסור,
ואליבא דרבנן
במשנתנו, הסוברים שרק במפרש הוא נאסר אפילו בכל שהוא, אבל בנשבע סתם אינו נאסר אלא בכזית.
ב.
אי בסתם,
אפשר גם לומר שמדובר בנשבע סתם שלא לאכול, ובכל זאת חלה השבועה גם על פחות משיעור כזית,
ואליבא דרבי עקיבא דאמר: אדם
הנשבע סתם שלא לאכול,
אוסר עצמו
אפילו
בכל שהוא
.
ורבי שמעון פוטר, משום שהוא לשיטתו סובר שגם על חצי שיעור מהאיסור הוא מושבע ועומד מהר סיני שלא לאכול, ואם כן לא חלה השבועה אפילו על חצי שיעור.
ומסקינן את הראיה:
ואי סלקא דעתך
שרבי עקיבא
בעלמא כרבי שמעון סבירא ליה,
אם כן איך יתכן להעמיד את דברי רבנן אליבא דרבי עקיבא, והרי לפי רבי שמעון, אפילו על
כל שהוא
מהאיסור
נמי
מושבע
ועומד מהר סיני הוא
ושוב לא חלה השבועה אפילו על כל שהוא!?
אלא, לאו, שמע מינה, בעלמא רבי עקיבא כרבנן סבירא ליה
ששיעור אכילה הוא בכזית, ולכן הנשבע שלא לאכול פחות מכזית מהאיסור, חלה שבועתו משום שאינו מושבע ועומד על פחות מכזית. ולכן גם בנזיר ששרה פתו ביין אינו חייב אלא אם כן הפת מצטרף להשלים שיעור כזית.
שמע מינה!
שנינו במשנה:
אמרו לו לרבי עקיבא: היכן
מצינו
באוכל כל שהוא, שהוא חייב.
והוינן בה:
ו
כי
לא
מצינו שהאוכל כל שהוא יהא חייב?
והרי
מצינו שהאוכל
נמלה
שלימה, לוקה עליה אפילו לפי חכמים, שכל האוכל בריה שלימה של איסור אפילו אם אין בה כזית לוקה עליה אליבא דכולי עלמא!?
ומתרצינן:
בריה שאני
שחשיבות בריה מחייבת מלקות גם בפחות מכזית, אבל בדבר שאינו בריה לא מצינו שיתחייב על כל שהוא.
ותו הוינן בה:
והרי
מצינו
הקדש
שהאוכל ממנו אפילו פחות מכזית חייב בקרבן מעילה, ובלבד שיהא בו שוה פרוטה!?
ומתרצינן:
הא בעינן
שיהיה בו לפחות
שוה פרוטה
וזהו שיעורו. משום שהאוכל הקדש אין חיובו על אכילה בתור אכילת איסור אלא על המעילה מההקדש, והמעילה אינה נמדדת בשיעורי אכילה אלא בשיעור ההנאה הממונית שהוא נהנה מההקדש, ושיעור ההנאה הוא בפרוטה, ונמצא שגם בהקדש אינו מתחייב על הנאה של כל "שהוא"!
ותו הוינן בה:
והרי
מצינו
מפרש
בשבועתו שהוא נשבע על כל שהוא, שהוא חייב ואפילו לחכמים!?
ומתרצינן:
מפרש נמי
-
כבריה דמי.
כשם שחייבים על בריה בשאר איסורים משום חשיבותה, כך גם הנשבע ומפרש בשבועתו שיאסר עליו אפילו כל שהוא, הרי החשיב את הכל שהוא בכך שאסרו עליו. אבל באיסור סתם, לא מצינו שיתחייב על כל שהוא.
ותו הוינן בה:
והרי
הנשבע שלא לאכול
עפר
, חייב עליו בכל שהוא. כיון שהעפר אינו בר אכילה, לא שייך לומר בו שיעור אכילה, ואפילו על כל שהוא חייב עליו!?
אלא
, מתוך זה שהחכמים לא מצאו שום דבר שיתחייב עליו בכל שהוא -
Translation
And we object: If so,
say the latter clause of that same Mishna [below 29a]:
What is an oath of vanity? One who swears to alter what is known to people—for example, he said about a stone pillar that it is of gold...
This is an oath of vanity, for whose intentional violation one is liable to lashes, and for whose unintentional violation one is exempt
from an offering, for there is no liability for an offering for an oath of vanity.
And we infer:
This is—
what does it exclude?
Is it not to exclude
one who intentionally swore about the past,
“I ate,” and “I did not eat,”
who does not receive lashes
for it [since here it is impossible to explain as above, that it comes to exclude from liability for an offering, since an oath of vanity also has no offering].
And this is difficult for Rabbi Abbahu, who obligates lashes for “I ate and I did not eat”
? And Rabbi Abbahu answers:
No,
the Mishna does not come to exclude a false oath about the past from lashes; rather, it comes to include it for an offering.
And this is what it says: An oath of vanity,
this is
the oath
for whose unintentional violation one is exempt from an offering. But
“I ate and I did not eat,”
for whose unintentional violation one is liable for an offering.
And it is Rabbi Akiva’s opinion, who obligates
an offering for an oath of expression
for the past just as for the future! Although in the verse concerning an offering for an oath it says “to do harm or to do good,” which implies the future, we derive from the additional wording of the verse, “for whatever a person expresses in an oath,” that one is also liable for the past. [Nevertheless, with an oath of vanity, where everyone knows that his words have no substance, Rabbi Akiva agrees that there is no liability for an offering, as explained below [26a], that there is an exclusion concerning one who swears to annul a mitzva—that is, an oath of vanity—for which he is exempt from an offering].
Although the verse concerning an offering for an oath says, “to do harm or to do good,” which indicates the future, we derive from the additional wording of the verse, “for whatever a person expresses in an oath,” that one is also liable to bring an offering for an oath concerning the past. [Nevertheless, with regard to an oath taken in vain, where everyone knows that his words have no effect, Rabbi Akiva agrees that there is no liability to bring an offering, as explained below, 26a, where an exclusion is derived concerning one who swears to nullify a mitzva, meaning an oath taken in vain, for which he is exempt from bringing an offering].
And we wonder: How is it possible to establish the latter clause as Rabbi Akiva’s opinion, who obligates an offering even for an oath concerning the past
But you said, the first clause is Rabbi Ishmael’s opinion,
who exempts from an offering for the past. Is it possible to say:
the first clause is Rabbi Ishmael’s opinion
is,
and the latter clause Rabbi Akiva’s!?
And we answer: Rather, actually,
the entire [Mishna] is Rabbi Akiva’s opinion
is,
and the first clause of the Mishna, in which it says, “This is an oath of expression, for whose intentional violation one is liable to lashes and for whose unintentional violation one is liable for a sliding-scale offering,”
and the first clause of the Mishna, which states: “This is an oath expressing a statement of intent, for deliberate violation of which one is liable to lashes, while for its unintentional violation he is liable to a sliding-scale offering,”
is not to exclude
“I ate and I did not eat”
from an offering; rather, it is to exclude
one who swore that he
will eat
and ultimately
did not eat
intentionally, who is exempt
from lashes, since there is no deed in it, and it is unlike an oath “that I will not eat,” and he ate, for which he is liable to lashes since there is a deed in it.
since he performed no action. This is unlike the oath, “I will not eat,” which he violates by eating and for which he is liable to lashes, since he performs an action.
But for an offering, he is liable
when he swore that he would eat and ultimately did not eat, as stated explicitly in the verse, “to do harm or to do good.”
And we examine this:
And what is different—how do you know to distinguish and say that the first clause of the Mishna comes to exclude only “I will eat” and he did not eat from lashes? Perhaps the first clause also comes to exclude “I ate and I did not eat” from lashes, so that the matter will correspond to the latter clause, which we said speaks of “I ate and I did not eat” to include it with regard to an offering?
—what basis do you have for dividing the cases and saying that the first clause of the Mishna comes to exclude only the case of “I will eat,” but he did not eat, from liability to lashes? Perhaps the first clause also comes to exclude “I ate, or, I did not eat,” from liability to lashes, so that its subject would parallel that of the latter clause, which we said speaks of “I ate, or, I did not eat,” in order to include liability to bring an offering?
And it would again be difficult for Rabbi Abbahu
And we answer:
It is reasonable that the first clause comes to exclude only “I will eat” and he did not eat, since the first clause
that the first clause comes to exclude only “I will eat,” but he did not eat, since the first clause
speaks of the future, of an oath that “I will not eat,” and therefore
speaking of an oath that he will not eat. Therefore,
it excludes the future, the oath that “I will eat” and he did not eat. For it would be astonishing to say that it
oath—that is, the oath that he will eat but did not eat. For it would be surprising to say that it
speaks of the future,
and
excludes the past, “I ate and I did not eat.”
“I ate, or, I did not eat.”
We learned in the Mishna:
“An oath that I will not eat,” and he ate any amount, he is liable,
the words of Rabbi Akiva.
They raised a question before them: What is the reason of Rabbi Akiva, who obligates one for an oath for any amount?
What is the reason that Rabbi Akiva holds that one who swears is liable for eating any amount?
Is it that
Rabbi Akiva, throughout the entire Torah, holds like Rabbi Shimon, who obligates lashes for eating any prohibited substance in the Torah, even
lashes for eating any prohibited substance in the Torah, even
for the slightest amount?
For it was taught in a beraita: Rabbi Shimon says: The measure of eating for every prohibition is
The measure of eating for every prohibition is
any amount—
for
liability for
lashes.
And they said by tradition from Moses at Sinai that the measure of eating a prohibition is
by tradition transmitted to Moses from Sinai that the measure of eating a prohibited substance is
an olive’s bulk only with regard to liability for an
liability to bring an
offering, when he ate unintentionally. And here, with regard to an oath, Rabbi Akiva will hold that even with regard to liability for an offering, any amount suffices. For the liability for the offering for an oath comes because the person deviated from his oath, and since Rabbi Akiva holds like Rabbi Shimon that eating any amount is considered “eating,” when a person swears that he will not eat, his intention is to prohibit himself even from eating any amount. Consequently, when he eats any amount, he has deviated from his oath, and it is fitting that he should become liable for an offering. [And this is unlike other prohibited foods, where the offering comes for the eating, whereas here the offering comes for the violation of his oath].
when he ate it unintentionally.
And here, with regard to an oath, Rabbi Akiva would hold that even for liability to bring an offering, any amount is sufficient. For the offering for an oath is brought because the person violated his oath, and since Rabbi Akiva holds like Rabbi Shimon that eating any amount is considered “eating,” when a person swears that he will not eat, his intention is to prohibit himself even from eating any amount. Therefore, when he eats any amount, he has violated his oath and should be liable to bring an offering. [This is not comparable to other prohibited foods, where the offering is brought for the act of eating, whereas here the offering is brought for the violation of the oath].
And properly they should have disputed: In truth, Rabbi Akiva and the Sages should have disputed
Indeed, Rabbi Akiva and the Sages should have disagreed
in general, concerning all the prohibitions of the Torah with regard to lashes, whether one is liable for any amount, just as Rabbi Shimon and the Rabbis disputed.
with regard to all prohibitions of the Torah concerning liability to lashes—whether one is liable for any amount—as Rabbi Shimon and the Rabbis disagree.
And the fact that they dispute here, with regard to an oath, is
with regard to an oath is
to make known to you the force of the Rabbis, that even with an oath they exempt him if he ate only any amount.
that they exempt him even in the case of an oath if he ate only any amount.
For even though it could be said: Since if the one who swore
if the person who swore
specified his words, saying that he was swearing concerning eating any amount, he would be
that he was swearing concerning eating any amount, he would be
liable even according to the Rabbis for any amount, [since the Rabbis too agree that liability for an offering for an oath is not because of “eating a prohibition,” but because he violated his oath; therefore, according to them as well, if he explicitly said that he was swearing concerning eating any amount, it is obvious that according to their view too he violated his oath and is liable], then even if he
even according to the Rabbis for any amount [since the Rabbis also agree that liability to bring an offering for an oath is not because of “eating a prohibited substance,” but because he violated his oath. Therefore, even according to their view, if he explicitly said that he was swearing concerning eating any amount, it is obvious that he violated his oath and is liable to bring an offering], then even if he
left his words unspecified, he is
his words without specification, he
also liable for any amount, because the one who swears intends by his language the language of people, and in the language of people eating any amount is also called eating; his intention is not the measure of eating according to the Torah, which is an olive’s bulk.
for any amount, because one who swears intends his words according to ordinary human speech. In ordinary human speech, eating any amount is also called eating; he does not intend the Torah’s measure of eating, which is an olive-bulk.
It teaches us that the Rabbis exempt, because they hold that everyone who swears concerning eating has in mind the measure of eating according to the Torah, which is an olive’s bulk.
because they hold that when one swears concerning eating, his intention is the measure of eating established by the Torah, namely, an olive-bulk.
This is one side of the question, and on the other hand:
or perhaps, in general,
Rabbi Akiva
holds like the Rabbis, that for all prohibitions involving eating, one receives lashes only for an olive’s bulk.
that one is lashed for eating a prohibited substance only for an olive-bulk.
And here, this is the reason that he obligates for any amount:
that he holds one liable for any amount:
since one who
specifies that he swore concerning any amount is
who specifies
that he swears concerning any amount
liable. Therefore, even when he
Therefore, even if he
leaves his words unspecified, he is
his words without specification, he
also
liable. For even when unspecified, he is like one who specifies, since his intention is not to swear concerning the measure of eating according to the Torah, which is an olive’s bulk, but according to the language of people, which is any amount. And this is the second side of the question.
For even when he does not specify, he is like one who specifies, since he does not intend the Torah’s measure of eating, which is an olive-bulk, but ordinary human speech, according to which eating means any amount. This is the second side of the question.
Come and hear: for the Sages said to him,
the Sages
to Rabbi Akiva
in our Mishna:
Where do we find that one who eats any amount
who
is liable, for this is the one who swore,
the one who swore,
is liable for any amount?
for any amount?
And if it is so, if we say that the reason of Rabbi Akiva is that he holds like Rabbi Shimon, that with all the prohibitions of the Torah the measure of their eating is any amount,
if we say that the reason for Rabbi Akiva is that he holds like Rabbi Shimon, according to whom the measure of eating for every Torah prohibition is any amount,
let him say to them—he should have answered the Sages:
He should have responded to the Sages:
I, throughout the entire Torah, hold like Rabbi Shimon, that the measure of eating is any amount, and therefore with an oath too one is liable for any amount. Why did he need to give them another reason, “Where do we find one who speaks and brings an offering, for this one speaks and brings an offering
?
Rather, certainly, Rabbi Akiva holds that only with regard to an oath is its liability for any amount.
And we reject the proof: Actually, Rabbi Akiva throughout the entire Torah holds like Rabbi Shimon, and here
he said it to them according to the words of the Rabbis, this reason.
as an argument to them.
And this is what he said:
According to me, throughout the entire Torah I hold like Rabbi Shimon, that one is liable for any amount. Therefore, with an oath too one is liable even for an offering for any amount, since the intention of the one who swore was to prohibit himself from eating any amount, since it is considered “eating” according to the Torah.
that one is liable for any amount. Therefore, even in the case of an oath, one is liable to bring an offering for any amount, because the person who swore intended to prohibit himself from eating any amount, since it is considered “eating” by Torah law.
But
according to you, who throughout the Torah hold that eating is only an olive’s bulk,
that throughout the Torah you hold that eating means only an olive-bulk,
at least concede to me concerning an oath that one is liable for eating any amount, because
that in the case of an oath one is liable for eating any amount, because
since one who specifies is liable for any amount,
for any amount,
one who leaves it unspecified is also liable for any amount.
for any amount.
And this is Rabbi Akiva’s intention: against your will, you must concede that an oath differs from all the prohibitions of the Torah, in that one brings an offering for speech alone. And since the liability for the offering is because he violated his speech, therefore, even by eating any amount he violated his speech. For even if he said, without specification, “I will not eat,” his intention is any amount, as though he had specified this.
And the Rabbis said to him: No!
One who swears without specification does not intend any amount, but rather the measure established by the Torah, which is an olive’s bulk.
Come and hear:
from what we learned in tractate Nazir:
Rabbi Akiva says: A nazirite who soaked his bread in wine, and there is in it—in the mixture of the bread and the wine—
the amount
sufficient to combine
together
an olive’s bulk,
and he ate it,
is liable for lashes. This is because with the prohibitions of a nazirite there is a special law that the permitted substance joins the prohibited substance to complete the measure of an olive’s bulk.
to lashes. This is because the prohibitions of a nazirite include a special rule that permitted matter combines with the prohibited matter to complete an olive-bulk.
And if it enters your mind that Rabbi Akiva
that Rabbi Akiva
in general holds like Rabbi Shimon, why do I need to combine the bread with the wine to reach the measure of an olive’s bulk? Is he not lashed for wine alone, for any amount, as with all the prohibitions of the Torah
with the wine to form an olive-bulk? He should be lashed for consuming any amount of wine alone, as with all prohibitions of the Torah!?
And furthermore, there is another proof from the fact that
we
learned
in a Mishna below [22b]: If one said,
“I swear that I will not eat,”
And furthermore, another proof, from what we learned in a Mishna below [22b]: one who said, one who said, “An oath that I will not eat,” and he ate carcasses and terefot, repulsive creatures and creeping things,
he
is liable for an offering for an oath, because he ate something fit for eating, although there is a prohibition upon it.
to bring an offering for the oath, because he ate food fit to be eaten, although it is prohibited.
And Rabbi Shimon exempts
from a korban, because he is sworn and standing from Mount Sinai not to eat forbidden things; therefore his oath not to eat does not take effect with regard to those things from which he is sworn and standing in any case not to eat. For this is as though he swore to fulfill the mitzva, in which case the oath does not take effect.
And we inquire concerning it: Why is he liable
according to the Sages? But
he is sworn from Mount Sinai
not to eat forbidden things, and how can an oath take effect concerning something that he is obligated with regard to?
Rav, Shmuel, and Rabbi Yohanan, who say:
the matter here concerns
one
who
includes
in his oath
permitted things together with forbidden things.
For he did not swear only not to eat carcasses, but not to eat without specification, including even permitted things. And since the oath takes effect concerning the permitted things, it also takes effect concerning the forbidden things.
And Rabbi Shimon holds that we do not say “since,” and one prohibition does not take effect upon another prohibition even when the second prohibition also includes things that had previously been permitted.
And Reish Lakish said: You find no case
according to the Sages in which he would be liable for a korban for an oath concerning forbidden things,
unless
he thereby prohibits himself through his oath from eating even half the measure of the prohibition, concerning which he is not sworn from Mount Sinai, and only through the oath is he prohibited from it.
And there are two ways in which it is possible for a person to prohibit himself through his oath also with regard to half a measure:
A.
If
or
if he specifies
in his oath that he swears not to eat even
half a measure
of the prohibition,
and according to the Sages
in our Mishna, who hold that only when he specifies is he prohibited even from any amount, but when he swears without specification he is prohibited only from an olive’s bulk.
B.
If it is without specification,
it is also possible to say that the case concerns one who swore without specification not to eat, and nevertheless the oath takes effect also concerning less than an olive’s bulk,
and according to Rabbi Akiva, who says: A person
who swears without specification not to eat
prohibits himself
even
from any amount.
And Rabbi Shimon exempts, because he maintains according to his own position that also with regard to half a measure of the prohibition he is sworn and standing from Mount Sinai not to eat; therefore the oath does not take effect even with regard to half a measure.
And we conclude the proof:
And if it enters your mind
that Rabbi Akiva
generally holds like Rabbi Shimon,
then how is it possible to establish the words of the Sages according to Rabbi Akiva? For according to Rabbi Shimon, even concerning
any amount
of the prohibition
also
he is sworn
and standing from Mount Sinai
and the oath again does not take effect even concerning any amount!?
Rather, no; infer from this: Generally, Rabbi Akiva holds like the Sages
that the measure of eating is an olive’s bulk. Therefore, one who swears not to eat less than an olive’s bulk of the prohibition—his oath takes effect, because he is not sworn and standing concerning less than an olive’s bulk. Therefore, also in the case of a nazirite who soaked his bread in wine, he is liable only if the bread joins to complete the measure of an olive’s bulk.
Infer from this!
We learned in the Mishna:
They said to Rabbi Akiva: Where
have we found
that one who eats any amount is liable?
And we inquire concerning it:
And
when
not
have we found that one who eats any amount is liable?
But
we have found that one who eats
an ant
whole is lashed for it even according to the Sages, for everyone agrees that one who eats an entire forbidden creature is lashed for it even if it does not contain an olive’s bulk!?
And we answer:
A creature is different
for the importance of a creature entails lashes even for less than an olive’s bulk, but concerning something that is not a creature, we have not found that one is liable for any amount.
And again we inquire concerning it:
But
we have found
consecrated property
from which one who eats even less than an olive’s bulk is liable for a korban for misuse of consecrated property, provided that it contains the value of a peruta!?
And we answer:
We require
that it contain at least
the value of a peruta
and that is its measure. For one who eats consecrated property is not liable for eating as an act of eating a forbidden thing, but for misusing consecrated property; and misuse is not measured by measures of eating, but by the measure of the monetary benefit that he derives from the consecrated property. The measure of benefit is a peruta, and it follows that, also with consecrated property, he is not liable for benefit of “any amount”!
And again we inquire concerning it:
But
we have found
one who specifies
in his oath that he swears concerning any amount, so that he is liable even according to the Sages!?
And we answer:
One who specifies also—
is considered like a creature.
Just as one is liable for a creature with regard to other prohibitions because of its importance, so too, when one swears and specifies in his oath that even any amount will be prohibited to him, he has made that any amount significant by prohibiting it to himself. But with an unspecified prohibition, we have not found that one is liable for any amount.
And again we inquire concerning it:
But
one who swears not to eat
earth
is liable for it for any amount, since earth is not fit for eating, it is not relevant to speak of a measure of eating, and he is liable for it even for any amount!?
Rather,
from the fact that the Sages did not find anything for which one would be liable for any amount—