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Chullin 135b (קלה:) — the Talmud in English
Chullin 135b (חולין קלה:): And the Rabbis say to you: If it enters your mind that they were juxtaposed with one another, the Merciful One would not have written either the vav or the word “first.”…
Original text — Chullin 135b (קלה:)
ורבנן
אמרי לך: אי סלקא דעתך שהוקשו זה לזה
לא נכתוב רחמנא לא וי"ו ולא "ראשית".
ולמה כתב רחמנא "ראשית" להפסיק הענין והוצרך לכתוב שוב וי"ו לערביה?
ורבי אלעאי
אמר לך:
איידי דהאי
ראשית הגז -
קדושת דמים
היא, דחיוב ממונא בעלמא הוא [וקדושה לאו דווקא, דאין בה קדושה כלל, רש"י],
והאי
תרומה -
קדושת הגוף
היא, שהרי אסורה לזרים, להכי
פסיק להו
קרא,
והדר ערבי להו
למילף בהיקש דשותפות עובד כוכבים פטור.
ואיבעית אימא
: לא תקשי לרבנן דנילף שותפות עובד כוכבים בראשית הגז מהאי דפטור בתרומה, ד
שותפות עובד כוכבים בתרומה רבנן חיובי מיחייבי!
דתניא: ישראל ועובד כוכבים שלקחו שדה בשותפות
הרי
טבל וחולין מעורבין זה בזה.
שאין חלקו של הישראל פטור מתרומה, והוי חלקו טבל המעורב בחלק החולין של העובד כוכבים ,
דברי רבי. רבי שמעון בן גמליאל אומר
: לאחר שמחלקין ביניהם את התבואה, חלקו
של
ה
ישראל חייב
בתרומה,
ושל עובד כוכבים
-
פטור.
עד כאן לא פליגי
רבי ורבי שמעון בן גמליאל
אלא דמר
רבי שמעון בן גמליאל -
סבר יש ברירה,
ואמרינן שלאחר החלוקה הוברר מהו חלקו של הישראל ומהו חלקו של העובד כוכבים, ולהכי חלק הישראל חייב וחלק העובד כוכבים פטור.
ומר
רבי -
סבר אין ברירה,
וגם אחר החלוקה מעורבין חלק הישראל וחלק העובד כוכבים.
אבל שותפות דעובד כוכבים, דברי הכל
ד
חייבת!
ואי בעית אימא
: לא תדחוק למימר לרבי אלעאי דאתקש ראשית הגז לתרומה מהא ד"וי"ו" ערביה, אלא
תרוויהו
שותפות ישראל ושותפות עובד כוכבים -
לרבי אלעאי מ"צאנך" נפקא!
דהא
שותפות עובד כוכבים מאי טעמא
פטור - משום
דלא מיחדא ליה
לישראל, שותפות
דישראל נמי לא מיחדא ליה
4 .
ורבנן
אמרי לך: ליכא למילף דשותפות ישראל פטור מדכתיב "צאנך". דבשלמא
עובד כוכבים, לאו בר חיובא הוא,
ואם כן שאני מישראל, ולהכי לא חשיב "צאנך" אי אית לישראל שותפות בהדיה, דלא קרינן לתרוויהו בלשון יחיד, כיון דלא תרוויהו בני חיובא נינהו. אבל שותפות
ישראל
ד
בר חיובא הוא,
קרי ביה "צאנך". דכל ישראל, שכולם בני חיובא, נקראים בלשון יחיד.
אמר רבא: מודה רבי אלעאי בתרומה
דשותפות ישראל דחייבת . ד
אף על גב דכתיב "דגנך",
דמשמע
דידך
-
אין, דשותפות
-
לא,
הדר
כתב רחמנא "תרומותיכם"
לשון רבים, דמשמע דשותפות נמי חייב.
ו
אלא
האי דכתיב
"דגנך" למה לי?
למעוטי שותפות עובד כוכבים!
וכן מודה רבי אלעאי ב
חלה.
ד
אף על גב דכתיב
בה
"ראשית", ואיכא למימר
ד
נילף
גזירה שוה
"ראשית"
-
"ראשית" מראשית הגז, מה להלן
בראשית הגז -
דשותפות לא, אף כאן
בחלה -
דשותפות לא, כתב רחמנא "עריסותיכם"
דמשמע דאף שותפות חייבת .
ומקשינן:
אלא טעמא דכתיב "עריסותיכם"
9 ,
משום הכי אמרינן דשותפות חייב,
הא לאו הכי, הוה אמינא נילף ראשית ראשית מראשית הגז
לפטורא? הא
אדרבה, נילף מתרומה
לחיובא!
ואמרינן:
הכי נמי,
באמת לא בעינן קרא ד"עריסותיכם" למילף חיובא דשותפות.
אלא "עריסותיכם" למה לי?
למילף דשיעור עיסה החייבת בחלה היינו
כדי עריסותיכם
של עכשיו, כשיעור עיסה שהיתה במדבר בזמן שניתנה תורה, והיינו עומר לגולגולת שהוא עשירית האיפה.
וכן מודה רבי אלעאי ב
פאה,
ד
אף על גב דכתיב "שדך"
דמשמע
דידך
-
אין, דשותפות
-
לא, כתב רחמנא "ובקצרכם את קציר ארצכם"
דמשמע דשותפות נמי חייב .
ו
אלא "שדך"
דכתיב,
למה לי?
למעוטי שותפות עובד כוכבים!
ומודה רבי אלעאי נמי ב
בכורה,
ד
אף על גב דכתיב "כל הבכור אשר יולד בבקרך ובצאנך",
דמשמע
דידך
-
אין, דשותפות
-
לא, כתב רחמנא "ובכורות בקרכם וצאנכם"
דמשמע שותפות .
ו
אלא "בקרך וצאנך" למה לי?
למעוטי שותפות עובד כוכבים!
ומודה נמי ב
מזוזה,
ד
אף על גב דכתיב
בה
"ביתך",
דמשמע
דידך
-
אין, דשותפות
-
לא, כתב רחמנא "למען ירבו ימיכם וימי בניכם"
דמשמע נמי שותפות.
ואלא "ביתך"
דכתב קרא,
למאי אתא?
Translation
And the Rabbis
say to you: If it enters your mind that they were juxtaposed with one another,
the Merciful One would not have written either the vav or the word “first.”
And why did the Merciful One write “first”? To interrupt the subject; and it was necessary to write the vav again in order to join them?
And Rabbi Ila'i
could say to you:
Since this—
the first shearing—
has sanctity of value
and is merely a monetary obligation [and “sanctity” is not meant literally, as it has no sanctity at all, Rashi],
whereas this—
teruma—
has inherent sanctity,
as it is forbidden to non-kohanim, therefore
the verse separated them,
the verse,
and afterward joined them
in order to derive through the juxtaposition that partnership with a gentile is exempt.
Alternatively,
the Rabbis need not be challenged: We can derive that produce jointly owned by a gentile is exempt from the fact that this produce is exempt from the offering, because
the Rabbis obligate jointly owned produce belonging to a gentile in the offering!
As it was taught in a beraita: When a Jew and a gentile jointly purchased a field,
it is
produce subject to tithes mixed with non-sacred produce.
The Jew’s share is not exempt from the offering; rather, his share is produce subject to the offering, mixed with the gentile’s share, which is non-sacred produce.
These are the words of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi. Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel says:
After they divide the produce between them,
the
Jew’s share
is obligated
in the offering,
whereas the gentile’s share
is exempt.
The dispute between
Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi and Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel
extends only to the point that one
—Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel—
holds that there is retroactive designation,
and we say that after the division it becomes clear which portion was the Jew’s and which was the gentile’s; therefore the Jew’s portion is obligated and the gentile’s portion is exempt.
Alternatively,
the Rabbis would not find it difficult: We can derive that partnership with a gentile in the first shearing is exempt from the fact that it is exempt in the case of teruma, because
partnership with a gentile in teruma is, according to the Rabbis, obligated!
As it was taught in a baraita: A Jew and a gentile who jointly purchased a field—
the produce requiring tithing and non-sacred produce are intermingled with one another.
This is because the Jew’s share is not exempt from teruma; thus his share is produce requiring tithing, intermingled with the gentile’s share of non-sacred produce,
the statement of Rabbi. Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel says:
After they divide the grain among themselves,
the share
of
the
Jew is obligated
in teruma,
whereas that of the gentile
is exempt.
They disagreed only up to this point, Rabbi and Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel: One master— Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel— holds that there is retroactive clarification, and we say that after the division it became clear which was the Jew’s share and which was the gentile’s; therefore the Jew’s share is obligated and the gentile’s share is exempt. And the other master— Rabbi— holds that there is no retroactive clarification, and even after the division the Jew’s share and the gentile’s share remain intermingled. But with regard to partnership with a gentile, everyone agrees that it is obligated! And alternatively, you need not force Rabbi Ila'i to say that the first shearing was juxtaposed with teruma on the basis of the vav that joined them. Rather, both—
as belonging to the Jew; a Jewish
partnership is likewise not designated to him 4 .
a partnership between Jews and a partnership with a gentile—
Rabbi Ila'i derives from “your flock”!
For why is
partnership with a gentile exempt?
Because it is
not exclusively his—
the Jew’s; a
partnership
between Jews is likewise not exclusively his.
And the Rabbis say to you: We cannot derive that a partnership between Jews is exempt from the fact that it is written “your flock.” For granted, a gentile is not subject to the obligation, and therefore differs from a Jew; consequently, when a Jew has a partnership with him, it is not considered “your flock,” because the two of them cannot both be referred to in the singular, since both of them are not subject to the obligation. But a partnership between Jews, who are subject to the obligation, is included under “your flock.” For all Jews, who are all subject to the obligation, are referred to in the singular.
although it is written “your grain,”
which implies
your own—
yes, a partnership
no—
the Merciful One then
wrote “your offerings” in the plural, which implies that a partnership is also obligated.
Rava said: Rabbi Ila'i agrees with regard to teruma
that a partnership between Jews is obligated,
because
although it is written “your grain,”
which implies
your own—
yes; a partnership—
no—
the Merciful One subsequently
wrote “your terumot”
in the plural, implying that a partnership too is obligated.
And then what is the purpose of that which is written, “your grain”? To exclude partnership with a gentile! And Rabbi Ila'i likewise agrees with regard to ḥalla. For although it is written in its context “first,” and one might say that we should derive by means of a gezeira shava, “first”— “first,” from the first shearing: Just as there— with regard to the first shearing— partnership is not obligated, so too here, with regard to ḥalla— partnership is not obligated— the Merciful One wrote “your kneading bowls,” which implies that partnership too is obligated.
derive
by an inference based on the identical expression
“first”
And we raise an objection:
and “first” from the first shearing: Just as there
in the first shearing
a partnership is not
permitted, so too here
a partnership is not
permitted—the Merciful One wrote “your kneading bowls,” implying that a partnership is also obligated.
And we challenge this:
Is the reason merely that “your kneading bowls” is written 9 ,
The reason is specifically that “your kneading bowls” is written,
and therefore we say that partnership is obligated.
If not for this, we would have said that we should derive “first”–“first” from the first shearing
to establish exemption?
On the contrary, we should derive it from teruma
to establish obligation!
And we say:
Indeed, so too,
in truth, we do not require the verse “your kneading bowls” to derive the obligation of a partnership.
But if so, what do I need “your kneading bowls” for?
To teach that the measure of dough obligated in ḥalla is
the measure of your kneading bowls
at present, corresponding to the measure of dough that existed in the wilderness when the Torah was given—namely, an omer per person, which is one-tenth of an eifa.
And Rabbi Ila'i likewise concedes with regard to
pe'ah,
that
even though it is written, “your field,”
which implies
that it is yours—
yes, a partnership—
no, the Merciful One wrote, “When you reap the harvest of your land,”
which implies that a partnership is also obligated.
But
“your field,”
which is written,
what does it come to teach?
To exclude a partnership with a gentile!
Rabbi Ila'i likewise concedes with regard to
the firstborn,
that
even though it is written, “Every firstborn that is born among your cattle and among your flocks,”
which implies
that it is yours—
yes, a partnership—
no, the Merciful One wrote, “the firstborn of your cattle and of your flocks,”
which implies a partnership.
But
what do I need “your cattle and your flocks” for?
To exclude a partnership with a gentile!
He likewise concedes with regard to
mezuzah,
that
even though it is written
in it
“your house,”
which implies
that it is yours—
yes, a partnership—
no, the Merciful One wrote, “so that your days and the days of your children may be increased,”
which also implies a partnership.
But “your house,”
which the verse wrote,
what does it come to teach?