Pesachim 100a — the Talmud in English

Perhaps it is a corrupted version?!

For one must read, “from nine and a half hours onward,” or “from the time of the afternoon offering onward,” as in the earlier beraita, and it is not difficult for Rav Pappa.

Marimar said to him—and some say, Rabbi Yeimar [said]

to Mar Zutra: Indeed, it is a properly transmitted version!

For

I happened to come to his lecture,

to the lesson

of Rav Pinhas, son of Rav Ami, and a tanna arose [

a sage who expounds before the public]

and taught

this beraita

before him,

before Rav Pinhas, son of Rav

and said

to him,

and he accepted it from him!

If so, it is difficult:

How is it possible to establish our Mishna in accordance with Rabbi Yehuda? After all, he holds that even on the eves of Shabbat and festivals it is forbidden to eat close to the time of the afternoon offering. And why did our Mishna specify דווקא the eves of Passover?

And we conclude:

Rather, it is clear in accordance with Rav Huna,

that our Mishna is only in accordance with Rabbi Yosei.

And we raised a difficulty against this:

But according to Rav Huna—

is it satisfactory?

For Rabbi Yirmeya said that Rabbi Yohanan said—and some say that Rabbi Abahu said that Rabbi Yosei son of Rabbi Hanina said: The halakha is in accordance with Rabbi Yehuda on the eve of Passover,

that a person may not eat close to the time of the afternoon offering.

And the halakha is in accordance with Rabbi Yosei on the eve of Shabbat

that he eats and continues until it becomes dark.

And we infer: Since he said

“The halakha is in accordance with Rabbi Yehuda on the eve of Passover”—

by implication, Rabbi Yosei disagrees in both cases!

For he also disagrees with Rabbi Yehuda on the eve of Passover and holds that he eats and continues until it becomes dark. And this is difficult for Rav Huna, who said that on the eve of Passover Rabbi Yosei concedes that it is forbidden to eat close to the time of the afternoon offering. And we answer:

No!

Rather, infer as follows:

“The halakha”—

by implication, they disagree concerning interruption!

For Rabbi Yosei indeed concedes to Rabbi Yehuda on the eve of Passover that it is forbidden to begin eating close to the time of the afternoon offering; rather, they disagree in a case where one began eating at a time when it was permitted [ both on the eve of Shabbat and a festival and on the eve of Passover], and his meal continued until evening: whether he must then interrupt. For Rabbi Yehuda says: He must interrupt when the day has been sanctified. And Rabbi Yosei says that he need not interrupt. And concerning this Rabbi Yirmeya said that the halakha is in accordance with Rabbi Yehuda on the eve of Passover, for he must also interrupt. And the halakha is in accordance with Rabbi Yosei on the eve of Shabbat, for it is permitted even to begin and eat until it becomes dark, and also afterward he need not interrupt if he began in a permitted manner [that is, before it became dark]. And our Mishna is speaking concerning beginning, and it comes to teach us [as stated] that on the eve of Passover Rabbi Yosei concedes that it is forbidden to begin.

For it was taught

that they disagree also concerning interruption:

One interrupts for Shabbat meals,

if he began eating in a permitted manner on the eve of Shabbat, before the time of the afternoon offering, and continued eating until it became dark, he interrupts his meal,

the words of Rabbi Yehuda.

Rabbi Yosei says: One does not interrupt,

rather, he is permitted to continue his meal even after it became dark. And after he finishes his meal, he recites kiddush over the cup.

And there was an incident involving Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel [

and Rabbi Yehuda]

and Rabbi Yosei, who were reclining in Akko

on the eve of Shabbat,

and the day was sanctified over them,

for it had become dark.

Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel said to Rabbi Yosei son of Rabbi [

a title for the greatest of the generation]:

Do you wish us to interrupt

the meal

and show concern for the words of Yehuda, our colleague,

who holds that one must interrupt when it becomes dark?

He said to him,

Rabbi Yosei:

Every day you favor my words before Rabbi Yehuda, and now you favor Rabbi Yehuda’s words in my presence?

“Would you also conquer the queen with me in the house”?!

That is, you are humiliating me in his presence.

He said to him,

Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel:

If so,

since you object—

we will not interrupt!

For

perhaps the students will see

that we are interrupting

and establish the halakha for generations

that one must interrupt in accordance with Rabbi Yehuda.

They said: They did not move from there until they established the halakha in accordance with Rabbi Yosei

that one need not interrupt.

Rav Yehuda said in the name of Shmuel: The halakha is not in accordance with Rabbi Yehuda

who says that one interrupts by “removing the table,” that is, they recite the Grace after Meals immediately when it becomes dark.

Nor in accordance with Rabbi Yosei

who says that one does not interrupt at all, but continues the meal until they finish. And after the Grace after Meals they bring a cup for kiddush.

Rather, he spreads a cloth

over the bread on the table

and recites kiddush

over the cup, the kiddush of the day, and continues his meal.