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Nazir 45b (מה:) — the Talmud in English
Nazir 45b (נזיר מה:): The reason for the verse is that if the nazirite woman were to shave at the entrance of the Tent of Meeting, there would be concern that they might be incited by her— the young…
Original text — Nazir 45b (מה:)
וטעם הכתוב הוא, משום שאם תגלח הנזירה בפתח אהל מועד, יש לחוש
שמא יתגרו בה
פרחי כהונה
הנמצאים שם, ולכן מגלחת היא במדינה במקום צנוע, ולא יראוה פרחי כהונה.
אמרו לו
חכמים לרבי שמעון שזורי:
לדבריך
-
סוטה תוכיח
, כלומר: סוטה תוכיח שלא כדבריך:
דכתיב בה
: "
והעמידה לפני ה'
", והיינו שמעמידה בשער ניקנור,
ולא חיישינן שמא יתגרו בה פרחי כהונה
.
אמר להן
:
אינו דומה, כי
זו
הנזירה -
כוחלת
את עיניה
ופוקסת
[קולעת] את שערה.
ו
אילו
זו
הסוטה -
אינה כוחלת ופוקסת
, אלא עומדת שם דרך ניוול, וכמו ששנינו [סוטה ז ב]: "ואחר כך מביא חבל מצרי וקושרו למעלה מדדיה".
מתניתין:
משנתנו ממשיכה בסדר תגלחת הטהרה, שהתחילה בה המשנה הקודמת, שנתבארו בה הקרבנות שהוא מביא, ותגלחת הנזיר מתי היא נעשית; ועתה מבארת המשנה מה נעשה בשיער:
אחר שנתגלח הנזיר,
היה
הנזיר
נוטל
את
שער ראש נזרו, ומשלח
אותו
תחת הדוד
[הכלי שמתבשל בו הבשר] של השלמים.
ואם גילח במדינה
, מחוץ לירושלים,
לא היה משלח תחת הדוד
.
במה דברים אמורים
שהוא משלח תחת הדוד,
בתגלחת הטהרה
.
אבל בתגלחת הטומאה, לא היה משלח תחת הדוד
, שלא תלה הכתוב נתינת שער תחת הדוד אלא בתגלחת נזיר טהור.
רבי מאיר אומר
:
הכל
בין טהורים שגילחו בירושלים בין טהורים שגילחו במדינה, ובין טמאים -
משלחין תחת הדוד, חוץ מן הטמא ש
גילח
במדינה
בלבד
, שאינו משלח תחת הדוד מפני ששערו נקבר.
גמרא:
שנינו במשנה:
היה נוטל שער ראש נזרו
ומשלח תחת הדוד:
תנו רבנן
:
ואחר כך
נוטל את הרוטב
של השלמים,
ונותן על שער ראש נזרו, ומשלח
את השער
תחת הדוד של שלמים
.
ואם שילח
את השער
תחת הדוד של חטאת ואשם
-
יצא
.
ותמהה הגמרא: והרי הברייתא עוסקת בנזיר טהור שהוא מביא שלמים, ואם כן תיקשי:
אשם בנזיר טהור, מי איכא
[וכי יש אשם בנזיר טהור]!? והיאך אמרו בברייתא שאם שילח תחת הדוד של האשם יצא!?
אמר
תירץ
רבא, הכי קאמר
:
ואם נזיר טמא
משלח
את שער ראשו
תחת הדוד של אשם, יצא
.
מפרשת הגמרא:
מנא הני מילי?
מנין שהוא נותן מרוטב השלמים על השער קודם שהוא משלחו תחת הדוד?
אמר רבא, אמר קרא
:
"ולקח את שער ראש נזרו, ונתן על האש
אשר תחת זבח השלמים
", ולא היה לו לומר אלא: "ונתן על האש אשר תחת השלמים".
ויתור "זבח" בא ללמד:
מזבחו
-
יהא תחתיו
[תחת השלמים יהיה מן הזבח]. ובהכרח רוטב הוא, היות שאת הזבח עצמו אי אפשר לשרוף כל זמן שהוא ראוי לאכילה.
למדנו בברייתא:
ואם שילח תחת הדוד של חטאת ואשם
-
יצא
.
ומפרשת הגמרא:
מאי טעמא?
והרי בכתוב לא מצאנו אלא אש אשר תחת זבח השלמים!?
כי
אמר קרא
: "
זבח
", מיותר הוא. כי היה לו לומר "אשר תחת השלמים", ולכך ייתרו הכתוב כדי ללמד שכל זבח במשמע,
לרבות את החטאת
בנזיר טהור
ואשם
בנזיר טמא.
ומקשינן:
והא אפיקתיה להאי
"
זבח
"
לרוטב
[והרי כבר למדנו מיתור לשון "זבח" שהוא נותן מן הרוטב, כדלעיל], ושוב אין כאן יתור לשון לחטאת ואשם!?
ומשנינן:
אם כן
, שלא בא "זבח" לרבות אלא שיהא נותן מן הרוטב,
לימא קרא
"
מרוטב השלמים
". לא היה לו להזכיר לשון "זבח", שהרי אינו נותן מן הזבח עצמו אלא מרוטבו.
מאי
"
זבח
", מדוע אמר הכתוב לשון זבח? -
אלא,
שמע מינה
, שהוא בא
לרבות חטאת ואשם
.
אך עדיין יש להקשות:
ואימא כולה
"זבח"
לחטאת ואשם הוא דאתא
[לרבות חטאת ואשם הוא בא], ולא נלמד מכאן שהוא נותן מן הרוטב תחת הזבח!?
ומשנינן:
אם כן, לימא
קרא "
שלמים וזבח
".
מאי
"
זבח השלמים
", למה הסמיך הכתוב "תחת" ל"זבח"? -
בהכרח
שמע מינה תרתי
[את שתי הדרשות].
תנו רבנן
:
הכל
, בין טהורים ובין טמאים,
היו משלחין תחת הדוד
.
חוץ מטמא שגילח במדינה, מפני ששערו נקבר, דברי רבי מאיר
. וכמו שאמר במשנתנו.
רבי יהודה אומר
:
טהורים כאן וכאן
, במקדש ובמדינה,
היו משלחין
.
ואילו
טמאין כאן וכאן, לא היו משלחין
.
וחכמים אומרים
:
הכל לא היו משלחין תחת הדוד, חוץ מן טהור ש
גילח
במקדש, מפני שנעשה כמצותו
, שגילח במקדש כמצותו.
מתניתין:
משנתנו ממשיכה בסדר "תגלחת הטהרה", אחר שנתבארו במשניות הקודמות הקרבנות שהוא מביא וסדר תגלחתו; ומבארת:
היה מבשל את השלמים, או שולקן
[בישול יתר], כלומר: אחר שנתן הנזיר את השלמים להתבשל, ונתן שערו תחת הדוד, ונגמר בישולן, או שליקתן -
ולאחר מכן, היה
הכהן נוטל את הזרוע
ה
בשילה מן האיל
של השלמים, וכן נוטל הכהן
חלת מצה אחת מן הסל
,
ורקיק מצה אחד
,
ונותן על כפי הנזיר
,
ומניפן
.
הכהן מניח ידיו תחת ידי הבעלים ומניף הכל.
ואחר כך
אחר התגלחת, התנופה וזריקת דם כל הקרבנות -
הותר הנזיר לשתות יין ולהטמא למתים
.
Translation
The reason for the verse is that if the nazirite woman were to shave at the entrance of the Tent of Meeting, there would be concern
that they might be incited by her—
the young priests
who are present there. Therefore, she shaves in the countryside, in a secluded place, so that the young priests will not see her.
The Sages said
to Rabbi Shimon Shezuri:
According to your words—
the sota proves otherwise,
meaning: the sota proves that your statement is incorrect:
As it is written concerning her: “
And he shall place her before the Lord,”
meaning that he places her at the Nicanor Gate,
yet we are not concerned that the young priests might be incited by her.
He said to them:
That is not comparable, because
this woman—
the nazirite—
applies eye makeup
to her eyes
and adorns
[braids] her hair.
But
if
this woman—
the sota—
does not apply eye makeup or adorn herself,
but stands there in a disgraceful manner, as we learned [Sota 7b]: “And afterward, he brings a rope made of Egyptian material and ties it above her breasts.”
Mishna:
Our Mishna continues the procedure of the shaving of purity, which the previous Mishna began. That Mishna explained the sacrifices that he brings and when the nazirite’s shaving is performed; the present Mishna now explains what is done with the hair:
After the nazirite has been shaved,
the
nazirite
takes
the
hair of his consecrated head and sends
it
under the pot
[the vessel in which the meat is cooked] of the peace-offering.
But if he shaved in the countryside,
outside Jerusalem,
he did not send it under the pot.
The Meiri wrote in the name of the Tosafot: “If he shaved in the country, he would not place it”—that is, under the pot. In other words, we find the placing only in the case of one who shaved in the Temple courtyard, meaning the Women’s Courtyard, since this is the purpose served by the entrance of the Tent of Meeting.” [The wording of the Tosafot available to us is unclear; see Arzei HaLevanon on this matter, and see carefully at the end of the discussion, “because he shaved in accordance with its requirement,” and the note there.] What the Meiri wrote in their name, that “the country” means outside the Temple, is explicitly explained in the Tosafot available to us to mean outside Jerusalem;; ;
When are these words stated,
that he sends it under the pot?
In the shaving of purity.
But in the shaving of impurity, he did not send it under the pot,
for the verse made the placing of the hair under the pot contingent only upon the shaving of a pure nazirite.
Rabbi Meir says:
Everyone—
whether pure nazirites who shaved in Jerusalem, pure nazirites who shaved in the countryside, or impure nazirites—
sends it under the pot, except for the impure one who
shaved
in the countryside
alone,
for he does not send it under the pot, because his hair is buried.
Gemara:
We learned in the Mishna:
The nazirite would take the hair of his consecrated head
and send it under the pot:
The Sages taught:
And afterward
he takes the broth
of the peace-offering
and places it on the hair of his consecrated head, and sends
the hair
under the pot of the peace-offering.
The Rosh wrote: “This is the conclusion of the beraita,” meaning that beforehand the beraita taught the order of all the actions, and concludes: “And afterward, and so on”; ;
And if he sent
the hair
under the pot of the sin-offering or guilt-offering—
it is valid.
a. The Minḥat Ḥinukh, mitzva 377 [section 13 in the new editions], wrote: “It appears that what is stated concerning placing the hair under the sin offering—that he has fulfilled his obligation—means that if he did not place it under the fire at all, he has not fulfilled his obligation. This applies only as an ideal mitzva requirement. But as a matter that invalidates the procedure, even if he did not place it at all, it does not invalidate it, since the entire shaving does not invalidate the process.” It may be inferred from his wording that according to Rabbi Eliezer—below, 46a, who maintains that he may not drink wine until after all the actions—the placing of the hair likewise invalidates the process;; ;
The Gemara raises a difficulty: The beraita is dealing with a pure nazirite, who brings a peace-offering; if so,
is there a guilt-offering for a pure nazirite
[does a pure nazirite have a guilt-offering]!? How, then, did the beraita say that if he sent it under the pot of the guilt-offering, it is valid!?
He said—
he answered—
Rava: This is what it means:
See the Shita Mekubetzet in the name of Rabbi Azriel; the wording there contains textual corruptions.
And if an impure nazirite
sends
the hair of his head
under the pot of the guilt-offering, it is valid.
On a straightforward reading, Rava intends to explain this beraita in accordance with Rabbi Meir in our Mishna, who says that an impure nazirite places the hair under the pot. But see the Shita Mekubetzet in the name of Rabbi Azriel, and in the wording of Maimonides also On a straightforward reading, Rava intends to explain this beraita in accordance with Rabbi Meir in our Mishna, who says that an impure nazirite places the hair under the pot. But see the Shita Mekubetzet in the name of Rabbi Azriel, and see the wording of the Rambam [Nazirite 6:14] and Keren Ora. On a straightforward reading, it appears that ideally he does not place the hair under the pot of the guilt offering. It must therefore mean that he places it under the pot of the sin offering, although it has not been explained why ideally he places it under the pot of the sin offering;; ;
The Gemara explains:
From where are these matters?
From where do we know that he places some of the broth of the peace-offering on the hair before sending it under the pot?
Rava said, the verse states:
“Then he shall take the hair of his consecrated head and place it on the fire
that is under the peace-offering,”
whereas it should have said only: “And place it on the fire that is under the peace-offering.”
The superfluous word “offering” teaches:
From its offering—
it shall be under it
[under the peace-offering there shall be something from the offering]. Necessarily, this refers to broth, since the offering itself cannot be burned while it is fit to be eaten.
We learned in a beraita:
And if he sent it under the pot of the sin-offering or guilt-offering—
it is valid.
The Gemara explains:
What is the reason?
After all, the verse mentions only the fire that is under the peace-offering!?
For
the verse states: “
Offering,”
which is superfluous. The verse could have said, “that is under the peace-offerings”; therefore, it made the word “offering” superfluous in order to teach that every offering is included,
to include the sin-offering
of a pure nazirite
and the guilt-offering
of an impure nazirite.
We challenge this:
But you have already extracted this “
offering”
for the broth
[after all, we have already learned from the superfluous word “offering” that he places some of the broth, as above], so there is no longer any superfluous wording from which to include the sin-offering and guilt-offering!?
We answer:
If so,
if “offering” came only to teach that he places broth,
the verse should say “
from the broth of the peace-offering.”
It should not have mentioned the word “offering,” since he does not place part of the offering itself, but rather its broth.
What is the meaning of “
offering,”
why did the verse use the word “offering”?—
Rather,
infer from it
that it comes
to include the sin-offering and guilt-offering.
But the difficulty remains:
Perhaps the entire word “
offering”
comes only for the sin-offering and guilt-offering
[it comes to include the sin-offering and guilt-offering], and we should not learn from it that he places broth under the offering!?
We answer:
If so, let
the
verse say, “
peace-offerings and offering.”
What is
“the offering of the peace-offering”,
why did the verse juxtapose “under” with “offering”?—
Necessarily,
infer two things
[the two derivations].
The Sages taught:
Everyone,
whether pure or impure,
would send it under the pot.
Except for an impure nazirite who shaved in the countryside, because his hair is buried; these are the words of Rabbi Meir.
This is as he said in our Mishna.
Rabbi Yehuda says:
Rabbi Yehuda’s approach is a third approach, which was not mentioned in our Mishna.
The pure ones, in both places,
in the Temple and in the countryside,
would send it.
This was explained in accordance with the Tosafot here; see what was explained in the note at the end of the beraita.
But
the impure ones, in both places, would not send it.
And the Sages say:
Everyone would not send it under the pot, except for the pure one who
shaved
in the Temple, because it was performed in accordance with its mitzva,
for he shaved in the Temple in accordance with its mitzva.
Mishna:
Our Mishna continues the procedure of the “shaving of purity,” after the preceding mishnayot explained the sacrifices that he brings and the procedure of his shaving; it explains:
If he was cooking the peace-offerings, or scalding them
[cooking them excessively], that is, after the nazirite had put the peace-offerings on to cook, placed his hair under the pot, and their cooking, or scalding, was completed—
Afterward,
the priest would take the foreleg
that
had been cooked from the ram
of the peace-offerings, and the priest would likewise take
one unleavened loaf from the basket,
and one unleavened wafer,
and place them on the nazirite’s palms,
and wave them.
The wording of the Mishna follows the wording of the verse: “The priest shall take the cooked foreleg from the ram, one unleavened cake from the basket, and one unleavened wafer.” This wording implies that the unleavened cake was in the basket, whereas the wafer was not in the basket. This also somewhat follows from the wording of the verse: “And a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour, cakes mixed with oil, and wafers of unleavened cakes of unleavened cakes spread with oil.” If “a basket of unleavened cakes” referred also to the wafers, the verse should have said: “And a basket of fine-flour unleavened cakes mixed with oil and wafers spread with oil,” and it would not have needed to repeat: “And wafers of of unleavened cakes unleavened cakes spread with oil,” since it had already said, “a basket of unleavened cakes.” But the Rambam [Nazirite 8:1] explains that all the cakes and wafers were in a single vessel. In Kesef Mishne, he cited as the source of the Rambam’s words the verse: “And he shall make the ram a peace offering to the Lord with the basket of unleavened cakes,” meaning that this necessarily refers to all the unleavened cakes that he brings, since from here we learn that slaughtering the peace offering sanctifies the bread. This is what must be said. It was written here in the name of Rabbi Yitzhak Ze’ev Soloveitchik that placing the items on the nazirite’s palms is an independent requirement and is not part of the act of waving. See his proof there. This also follows from the wording of the Rambam—Nazirite 8:5—“Once one of the bloods has been sprinkled on him, he is permitted, even though he did not place them on his palms or wave them.”
The priest places his hands beneath the owner’s hands and waves everything.
And afterward—
after the shaving, the waving, and the sprinkling of the blood of all the sacrifices—
the nazirite is permitted to drink wine and become impure through contact with the dead.
a. Rambam, chapter 9 of The Procedure of the Offerings, halakha 9. b. The Meiri wrote: He likewise waves the breast, the thigh, and the portions offered on the altar [and waves everything together], as it is written: “The priest shall wave them as a wave offering,” and so on, “with the breast of the wave offering and the thigh of the gift offering.” This is all the more so regarding the portions offered on the altar. He mentioned only what is unique in this case compared with other peace offerings. [See Rashi in the Torah, who implies that “with the breast of the wave offering and the thigh of the gift offering” does not continue the phrase “the priest shall wave them””; ;